In case you've been hiding in a closet, here are the facts:
- Californian Nadia Suleman has had six in vitro fertilizations that resulted in four single-births, one set of twins and the octuplets.
- All six IVF implantations were done by the same doctor.
- Suleman is divorced and unemployed, and lives with her parents.
- Supposedly she is planning to go back to school and finish her master's degree and work as a counselor.
- The hospital stay for her six premature newborns will cost upwards of $1.5 million.
- The California Medical Board is investigating the doctor who implanted the latest six embryos to see if there was a violation of the standard of care.
- Suleman is collecting almost $500 a month in food stamps.
- Three of her older children are disabled, and undoubtedly there will be some problems with the octuplets.
- FOURTEEN CHILDREN UNDER EIGHT YEARS OLD.
On a related note, who the fuck paid for all this IVF? It's $20,000 or more per IVF cycle. How did she get that much money? Wouldn't it have been more responsible to save some of the money she spent to take care of her younger children instead of being on food stamps and living with her parents? Beyond that, who is going to pick up this several million dollar bill for her hospital stay? She may be denying that she's on welfare now, but after she brings home her eight new babies? You bet your ASS that she is going to be on welfare soon.
AND... Loralee made a really good point:
"As for the father of her 14 kids, it is the same man. A friend who donated. So, what about her “donor-friend” and his responsibilities? This is not some anonymous guy who jerks off in a cup to help infertile couples or put himself through med school. This is someone who KNEW she already had SIX of his kids and somehow thought it was a good idea to keep it going, despite her history.
I remember a suit for child support of a sperm donor some time back and I totally disagreed with it. I feel with anonymous sperm bank donation, that responsibility ends there. THIS IS DIFFERENT. If she collects or tries to collect Medicaid or welfare, I absolutely think that they should go after this guy."
On to the pregnancy itself... I'm sorry, but there is a ton of risk involved in a multiples pregnancy. Twins or triplets are risky enough, but octuplets? She put her own life and the life of every single one of those eight babies at risk. How could you have six children, but put your health at risk that way?This mother insists she is going to be able to take care of her children when she be a counselor. I'm wondering what type of counselor she is planning on becoming that she thinks she is going to make so much money?
I'm not against large families necessarily. There is nothing in me that at all understands WHY anyone would want to have 14, 18, 20 children. I would not want it. EVER. I have ONE, and sometimes I can barely even keep control here. There are certain aspects that I personally don't believe in - by having that many kids, the older kids are forced to act as caretakers, nannies, and surrogate parents to the younger children. It is impossible for two parents to take care of that many kids on their own.
However, you look at a family like the Duggars, and they are self sufficient. They own and run a successful business, they make their own clothes, they shop smartly, and all of their children were conceived naturally. I don't GET it, but whatever.
This is a completely different situation. This is a person who was unable to have children without having her eggs taken out, fertilized, and put back in. She chose to do that multiple times. She chose to put all of her children into a poor childhood. She chose to put them into a less than ideal living situation. She chose a path for her older children that will undoubtedly involve growing up too soon to help parent their younger siblings. She chose to saddle her parents with some of the responsibilities, which they will be forced to take on whether they like it or not.
It's irresponsible.
What do you think?
